| Match 1 | 672 votes |
|---|
| Bob Wilson – Anchorman | 273 | 41% |
| Twenty Four Hour Garage People | 399 | 59% |
| Match 2 | 614 votes |
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| Them’s The Vagaries | 309 | 50.3% |
| Terminus | 305 | 49.7% |
| Match 3 | 640 votes |
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| Joy Division Oven Gloves | 285 | 45% |
| Everything’s AOR | 355 | 55% |
| Match 4 | 623 votes |
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| Every Time a Bell Rings | 340 | 55% |
| The Trumpton Riots | 283 | 45% |
| Match 5 | 606 votes |
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| Turned Up Clocked On Laid Off | 181 | 30% |
| The Light at the End of the Tunnel | 425 | 70% |
| Match 6 | 612 votes |
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| For What Is Chatteris… | 352 | 58% |
| A Country Practice | 260 | 42% |
| Match 7 | 636 votes |
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| All I Want For Christmas Is A Dukla Prague Away Kit | 261 | 41% |
| National Shite Day | 375 | 59% |
| Match 8 | 623 votes |
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| Tending The Wrong Grave For 23 Years | 316 | 50.7% |
| Restless Legs | 307 | 49.3% |
✉ Letters Sent (94)
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(4 years ago by Exxo)
Chris The Siteowner
And we have our first quarter-finalists …one with a routine win, the other with one of the closest results ever. Two results a day for the first four days this week; there’s still time to vote in any matches still in progress.
29 July 2019
dr desperate
Closest, but not Closer.
29 July 2019
poopleby
That’s it. Life has no meaning anymore.
29 July 2019
IDIOT SAUL
Hopes I once held
No longer there
29 July 2019
hendrix-tattoo
Gutted about Terminus it’s my ringtone….
29 July 2019
abbers
terminus defeated?
suggest we start again and get it right this time
am without speech
29 July 2019
Gipton Teenager
Seems a fag paper was about right. I had Terminus down as a finalist.
29 July 2019
The Donkey Centre Half
How has TTV beaten Terminus – possibly the best song HMHB have ever written? I wouldn’t even have had TTV in the final 32.
29 July 2019
cream cheese and chives
The Terminus result seems to be reflecting referendum reality.
Please God, Dominic Cummings isn’t going to reveal himself as a fan.
I too had Terminus as a possible finalist/greatest HMHB composition/song to be played at funeral etc etc
29 July 2019
Welsh goth
More close results to come I suggest.
29 July 2019
Welsh gotH
58 more votes for match 1 than 2. Match 2 even closer then with people not able to choose a fave.
29 July 2019
Chris The Siteowner
It’s excellent how much love there is for Terminus (and it’s seriously threatening to take its place in my own HMHB top five), and yet… will of the people and all that. Let’s not take it out on Vagaries though, which is a top tune itself (last 8 in 2011 and 8th in the Baguette Dilemma Round of 2015).
29 July 2019
Pirx the purist
Oooy, gevalt!
Well, I suppose it takes away the non-baguette dilemma I’d have had if Terminus had come up against NSD…small consolation, though. :-(
29 July 2019
parsfan
0/2 for me. On track for being even more out of touch with the masses than the last round (7/16).
29 July 2019
Paul F
Brexit, Trump and now this – I’m not sure I could take another shock of this magnitude.
29 July 2019
The harbinger of nothing
That result reflects exactly how close those two are for me.
29 July 2019
irk the purists
Without wishing to offend those who liked it and voted for it, while Terminus has a great tune and many clever lyrics I find it maudlin in the extreme. And not ‘ironic maudlin’ either.
Them’s The Vagaries is not my first choice but it is a damn fine song.
30 July 2019
dickhead in quicksand
Would this be a good moment to vent my feelings about Match 2 by pointing out that the column formatting is all over the place?
30 July 2019
Cream cheese and chives
Fair play to ITP for making his feelings about Terminus public. The rest of those TTV voters seem to keeping their cowardly heads well below the parapet. Clearly, ITP is wrong but at least has the guts to nail their colours to the mast .It cannot be doubted that the Establishment , a pro TTV media and an evil Svengali or six have been up to no good. Art reflects life reflects art. Is it all a huge cover up? Mileage chart-imperial measures? Not just Cummings but Rees-Mogg as well?
All this and The Ashes. What a summer of sport.
30 July 2019
gipton teenager
Just had another replay of TTV v T – I’ m going through a lot of Rizlas here. Crunchy guitar, earthy vocals, some of the funniest lines in the songbook against great tune,excellent production, thoughtful lyrics.
What would happen if the vote was tied Chris?
30 July 2019
Chris The Siteowner
@DiQ: Ironically, when it comes to table formatting in HTML, them’s the vagaries. There are of course rules behind the scenes: if the song titles are short, the ‘spare’ space gets allocated proportionately across all the columns, which seems fair. However, I wouldn’t bank on these being consistent across browsers. The easy fix would be to make the second and third columns a fixed (or at least fixed percentage) width, but if we over-do it, that could lead to something horrid on narrow (e.g. smartphone) screens. I’ll have a play with the next ones, but I’m going to leave those first two as-is just for posterity.
30 July 2019
Chris The Siteowner
@GT: I’m not sure we ever made up any rules about that. We probably should. Perhaps how they did in the Baguette Dilemma Round as a tiebreaker?
30 July 2019
EXXO
” … first-item list advantage has precedent within the cognitive psychology literature: early items have been shown, for example, to have greater influence on online clicking behaviours (Ansari and Mela, 2003), advertisement choices (Lohse, 1997), jury decisions (Stone, 1969), taste preferences (Mantonakis, Rodero, Lesschaeve, and Hastie, 2009), survey responses (Krosnick and Alwin, 2001), and memory (e.g. Rundus, 1971; Avons, 1998), compared to later list items. In such situations it is argued that early list items possess greater significance as they are used as cognitive markers for subsequent list-item comparisons (e.g. see Henson,
1998, for memory modelling). As a consequence, these early items receive more elaborate processing, and this results in an increase in their salience.
Krosnick (1991) proposed that the first-candidate benefit in voting behaviour is underpinned via the employment of a confirmatory bias heuristic….”
“Tart-Mark (2019) furthermore speculates that in a context where the evidence suggests that approximately 9% of voters can’t even be arsed going beyond the first decision to make the second, that the effect of first-item list advantage on those who do must be significant, if they are so pathetically unmotivated in the first place….
Extracts from: Order Effects of Ballot Position without Information-Induced
Confirmatory Bias
Andrew. J. Johnson (Coventry University) and Chris Miles (Cardiff University), 2005.
Dr. Andrew Johnson is of course the world’s foremost academic expert on the effects of chewing gum in improving concentration, and would probably recommend that some of his sponsors’ product should be prescribed to the obviously high proportion of ADHD sufferers amongst the LF Cup voters.
30 July 2019
Two fat feet
A more comfortable win for 24HGP than predicted and my instinct re Terminus turned out to be wrong, but happy with both results so far.
Since probably Cammell Laird there seems so be one song on each album that everybody seems to turn cartwheels over and I just don’t get it myself, and I have to say Terminus looks like the one for the most recent album. I’ve tried but it just doesn’t do it for me, so it’s a bit of a relief that it’s gone so I don’t have to puzzle over what I’m missing anymore with that one.
30 July 2019
Gok WAN Acolyte
Terminus will have learned a lot from the experience, newcomer at this level, will come back stronger in 2023, and other pundit cliches.
Disappointed my favourite has gone, but pleased it made it this far. I reckon that matches 5 & 6 (and poss 7) might be affected by @Exxo’s “Confirmatory Bias Heuristic” (As an aside, wasn’t that the title of an album by The Fall?)
30 July 2019
EXXO
Interested to know if those who don’t especially ‘get’ Terminus have or have not in the last few years been affected by the issues? Experienced loss of parents, one parent left bereaved, lessening faculties of parents leading to increased sense of own relative frailty and mortality, inability to do things you sued to be able to do with ease, constant visions of more restricted, difficult declining years … or are they the type of folks, who even having experienced such issues, don’t dwell on them? And do they find it maudlin when others dwell on them? Then, of course, whether they use buses… Or maybe they just don’t want to think about these things when listening to HMHB?
30 July 2019
EXXO
Ahem, it’s not my confirmatory bias heuristic.
L’enfer c’est presque toujours la heuristique biais de confirmation des autres.
30 July 2019
Two fat feet
it just doesn’t strike a chord with me thematically or musically. I get that there are many who find it full of meaning and depth; I’m just not one of them. I just find it unusual when a song which is so acclaimed just passes me by so easily.
30 July 2019
BOBBY SVARC
Mine would be the second paragraph, although it does gripe me that I’m no longer able to go to gigs.
30 July 2019
EXXO
Really interested in your view of Terminus Mick – are you saying that despite (or because of?) your own health and mobility situation, you do find it a bit maudlin? I’ve probably completely misunderstood you, soz.
I think it makes a difference whether you are able to listen to it without thinking about Mr. B’s loss of his dad in 2016. I know I can’t.
30 July 2019
Ken Hom's hot wok
I’m one of the four vote margin for Vagaries. I’m not sorry, but I apologise anyway.
30 July 2019
BOBBY SVARC
“or are they the type of folks, who even having experienced such issues, don’t dwell on them” …Tis me, not so much losing a parent or close friend but my situation, If I’d have dwelt on it I doubt that I’d be still here. Anyway 60 next June, I’m trying to organise summat.
30 July 2019
Gipton Teenager
Wouldn’t a countback system be needlessly simple, obviously sensible and logically sane?
I suggest two Biscuiteers should throw custard pies at each other, each moving back a pace every 17 seconds until one of them misses the target.
30 July 2019
Two fat feet
Regarding tied matches – I’m sure we’d all be none the wiser if Chris just delayed closing the vote / announcing the result until one more vote came in to decide it, but without telling anyone that was happening.
30 July 2019
transit full of keith
I voted for Terminus, but I do get why it’s not some people’s cup of hot soup – because it doesn’t strike a chord, strikes too much of a chord, or just sounds a bit maudlin for their personal taste. ‘Grey falls on the green’ is a brilliant line, but then so is ‘mirthless furniture’. Both phrases conjure up a more vivid picture in a few words than other lyricists manage in whole songs (or whole careers).
30 July 2019
Chris The Siteowner
The unpredictable appeal of the songs from the new album continues to surprise our resident studio analyst…
30 July 2019
Chris The Siteowner
Halfway update on the relative positions of the eliminated songs in the Baguette Dilemma Round: Evening; Village; JDOG; Evening Sun; Bad Wools; Trumpton; Leeuwarden; Bob Wilson; Damnation; Asparagus; Stiperstones; Knobheads; Gwatkin; Eno; Westward Ho; Vitas Gerulaitis; Dickie Davies; Paintball; Checkatrade; Terminus
30 July 2019
Cream cheese and chives
Maybe three years from now the dispute over Terminus/TTV will still be raging and this will be a forum divided. Irksome media types will engage in facile vox pops and be met with Terminus voters sighing and saying,”Let’s just gerron with it.”
Exxo’s point about experience of the issues is not one I have really thought about. I just thought the poll was a fix! With hindsight I do still think of my old man when I hear the song. Every time. Just a split second. Every time. Food for thought.
Is this just an appetiser though? The fallout from any of matches 3,4 or 7 could be huge. In the event of a tie could I propose a super over but done with peglegs?
30 July 2019
Two fat feet
Well, got both those wrong but won’t be shedding any tears for JDOG as I would for Trumpton.
30 July 2019
Welsh goth
I voted TTV. I do not read lyrics and still pick up on new one liners ten years on. I was oblivious of the full lyrics of terminus. I have now read them and now appreciate the angst displayed. Sadly, my shallow taste is catchy tune and A lyric I catch and laugh out loud to it. Therefore TTV. And explains why gok wan acolytes is not still in the cup!
30 July 2019
Two fat feet
Well the latest album may be down to its last representative now but ETABR may prove hard to shift; as erratic as my predictions may be, it’s now installed as second favourite.
30 July 2019
BAD LOSER
This competition is dead to me now. How can Terminus not get past the last 16?
30 July 2019
Steveee
Sad about Terminus did not see that coming, however a great performance in match 4 for Every Time.
30 July 2019
Paul f
Even if you don’t identify with the theme, or consider that theme maudlin, a closing lyric as good as: “Things that I hold dear/held in place by means of a surgical truss/sorry, not in service anymore” surely lifts it above the admittedly very good TTV?
30 July 2019
JD O'GLOVES
I think there needs to be a second vote on match 2, in fact, I demand it. Clearly stupid people have been duped and have voted on a populist mandate rather than the clearly clever and melodic tune of Terminus. Fetch my coat Margaret, I’m marching to Town Hall.
30 July 2019
The harbinger of nothing
Match 3! What? What?!
Oh so wrong, oh so wrong.
30 July 2019
Lux inferiOr
Late rallying call for votes for TUCOLO, the crowning moment of the most unerringly brilliant of all HMHB albums. Deeply poignant, evoking a keen sense of melancholia, yet at the same time remarkably uplifting and humorous. Show some love for this representative of the faultless early/mid 90s brilliance of the band (yeah, I know AOR is still in, but like the majority of the last 16, it benefits from being, or having been, performed regularly in a live environment).
31 July 2019
Lux inferior
Hmm. Probably should have posted in the ‘Draw & Voting’ section, rather than the ‘Results’ one. Whatever, vote TUCOLO.
31 July 2019
Daveu
So, Terminus unfortunately defeated by a narrow margin (or “the will of the people” according to some politicians). I like TTV, just think Terminus is better. Can’t understand at all the result of match 4, but guess that is just my musical taste. All (my) hopes now resting on TLATEOTT & AOR…
31 July 2019
Chris The Siteowner
2015’s Baguette Dilemma Round winner (but eventual defeated finalist) steams through. Meanwhile, the re-run of the 2011 Final produces a quite different result, eight years on.
31 July 2019
Welsh goth
Match 5. ?????
No words but clearly no one turned up nor clocked on and were immediately laid off!
31 July 2019
paul f
Faith in my fellow biscuiters partially restored.
31 July 2019
paul f
By reference to Match 5 that is. I would have been happy either way with the result of Match 6.
31 July 2019
Chemistryimp
Wow. Oven Gloves and Trumpton out in the last sixteen.
31 July 2019
Pirx The Purist
Oh…spherical objects!
I think some people are only here for the comedy material…
31 July 2019
Cream cheese and chives
@Pirx An interesting point of view. Much as I love ETABR there is a part of me that wonders whether its popularity is partially based upon a sweary chorus. It is a great sweary chorus and a very good song but would it have hit the heights without the f word? Not wishing to rake over the coals, but would Terminus have scraped through if there were more expletives? Hands I once held, no longer f***ing there. While typing this I noticed that prescriptive text(or something) replaces sweary with sweaty. What would a sweaty chorus involve?
31 July 2019
dickhead in quicksand
What would a sweaty chorus involve? Opera, arc lights, and an over-enthusiastic choreographer.
Or perhaps a too-literally-acted-out amateur Messiah.
31 July 2019
JITSU_G
Re comment 47, don’t think AOR beat JDOG by account of being played live more. Although I do agree that the big live songs will do better in the earlier stages.
31 July 2019
EXXO
In the middle eight of Terminus, the way the machine-gun guitar echoes someone mumbling Galatians and then mimics the sheer aggression of the push-chair-related confrontations, that’s where you would need the cussing over the top to guarantee the song’s popularity in this age of populism: both times by my reckoning there’s potential for sixteen syllables, and the second time at least it could be anything along the lines of “Fuck you, you twat, no fuck you cunt, fuckin’ move it, no I fuckin won’t”
Still would need people to listen to the lyrics though, which Welsh Goth suggests a number of voters haven’t bothered doing yet. I kind of envy them those epiphanies a decade afte release.
31 July 2019
Two fat feet
Predictometer a bit better for those two results – although TUCOLO got an even bigger shoeing than anticipated, but only 1% out for Chatteris. Unless NSD wins comfortably in this round, LATEOTT could be the new favourite.
31 July 2019
The harbinger of nothing
It’s a good point about voting for the funnier songs. I definitely lean towards those, although it’s by no means a rule. In a previous post I referred to a theoretical tie between Ready Steady Goa and ITMA as one for which I just couldn’t decide a winner, and that’s probably because they both make me smile every time I hear them. (Could add L’Enfer C’est Les Autres to that list too). It’s probably also why I voted against AOR: because, much as it’s a great tune, I don’t really “get” that song (like a lot of M,T&D really; it’s definitively my least favourite HMHB album – although of course I still really like it… Is that because, Virginia Wade and a Care Bear aside, it doesn’t raise much of a giggle with me?)
On the other hand though… Songs like Uffington Wassail, Floreat Inertia, New York Skiffle, This Leaden Pall and Ordinary to Enschede would win the majority of my votes against funnier songs.
It’s clear that not everyone votes for the comedy. Otherwise Lord Hereford’s Knob, Dead Men, Brian May and Shit Arm would all have made the top 32 on the collective baguette menu. (Travesties, all!)
31 July 2019
The harbinger of nothing
With Goth On Our Side is another one. And Soft Verges… I do have a penchant for the acoustic numbers. If only Nigel would remember to bring it along with him…
31 July 2019
WelSh goth
Vocally Terminus is not the clearest in terms of making out the words.A poor excuse but FWIC or NSD or TLATEOTT or ACP or JDOG are lyrically clear.
In addition, to counteract the swear theory it did not help The Unfortunate Gwatkin or Stavanger Toestub!
31 July 2019
The harbinger of nothing
Following on from Exxo’s comment.
Terminus would be ruined with swearing in it. NB judges his swearing very well, I think. Used sparingly but to good effect. A talent also held by Mark Oliver Everett. But not by Fred Durst.
There are several HMHB songs that I have only really come to appreciate having read not only the lyrics but the comments on this site. Nove On The Sly, New York Skiffle and See That My Bike’s Kept Clean are examples. I’ve got you lot to thank for that!
1 August 2019
EXXO
Very well said – I hope it was obvious that I was being despairingly ironic about the desperate attempt to retrospectively dumb down.
1 August 2019
cream CHEESE and chives
Of course swearing would not work in Terminus! I was just thinking aloud as to whether a good swear adds to the popularity of a song. ETABR always gets a lusty singalong live and at certain words the volume definitely rises.
NB is a highly skilled swearer , a talent often overlooked. Is there anything more tedious than really excessive swearing? Liam Gallagher for example.
I suppose I am still wrestling with the fact that my favourite song has crashed out. Bad Losers on Lux Familiar?
1 August 2019
The harbinger of nothing
Oh, I realised that nobody actually wanted swearing in Terminus!
It occurred to me that match 5 was in fact the Nagasaki derby.
1 August 2019
Cream cheese and chives
Ironically, Them’s the Vagaries -the song that drove a rusty spike through my Terminus heart-contains one of my favourite lines.”I’m talking five day tests.” Heading towards Edgbaston on a very crowded and very warm train, I am now also getting a sense of what a sweaty chorus might be like. It isn’t pleasant.
1 August 2019
STEVEEE
As it was so close is it worth in the grand tradition of things to have a recount re Terminus.
1 August 2019
Chris The Siteowner
That’s the problem with electronic voting – there’s nothing to recount. I could have just made up the results (although you can be fairly certain that I haven’t, based on the terrible performance of my favourite songs). As an aside, if you ever hear a call for electronic voting in anything that really matters, watch this video and take to the streets to stop it.
1 August 2019
EXXO
Hear, hear! He’s good.
I also find it amazing that the email addresses for petitions for debates to parliament don’t have to be linked to a physical presence on the electoral roll.
We’re all very naive about voting in this country. There’s no need to reform how we identify voters in the UK, say the civil servants responsible, time after time. Why so? They tell us it’s because hardly anybody ever gets caught impersonating somebody else at the ballot booth. Errm, but isn’t that because we don’t check?
1 August 2019
Chris The Siteowner
Last two results: I’m going to call the first as going to form, and the second having been too close to have been predicted, as Two Fat Feet predicted.
End-of-round update on the relative positions in the Baguette Dilemma Round of the songs eliminated so far: Evening of Swing; Village; JDOG; DPAK; Evening Sun; Bad Wools; Legs; Trumpton; Leeuwarden; Bob Wilson; Damnation; Asparagus; Stiperstones; Knobheads; Gwatkin; Eno; Westward Ho; Vitas Gerulaitis; Dickie Davies; Paintball; Checkatrade; Terminus
1 August 2019
dickhead in quicksand
I thought the breezy optimism of DPAK might lose out this year to the introspective melancholy of NSD.
1 August 2019
Two fAt feet
Well I did indeed call the photo-finish although I did say it would go the other way.
Quite a formidable line-up for the quarter-finals; Tending and Vagaries considerably behind the rest of the field however according to the computer.
1 August 2019
Welsh goth
Hi CTSO, does this mean terminus was the lowest scoring song in the BD round that has been knocked out in the knockout stages.
Sorry i know i am being dull here. I am clearly at the bottom of the biscuit tin.
(Yep, it was – CtSO)
1 August 2019
EDUCATED RITA
Agree that TTV is a rank outsider; unless it draws Tending. But for me it is not just a song with a catchy tune and a couple of amusing lines. It’s part of the rich vein of lyrics/titles inspired by Hardy; in this case Return of the Native. Not uncoincidentally, the Hardy novel perhaps most concerned with recording the disappearance of old ways of life and dialect, for more modern ones. The passage where the family elder refers to them vagaries takes place in the presence of a troop of mummers and precedes a discussion about his brushes with Boney.
I don’t suppose the above accounts for TTVs popularity. It also doesn’t benefit from the supposed advantages of swearing or frequent live performances. Maybe it’s the guitar sound that makes it stand out? But what do I know? I’m just a primitive creature of the heath.
1 August 2019
Gipton Teenager
I got 8 through the RoTT. Then 5 through the SCOH,so at least one through to the Quarters. Thanks for the link about election “voting” CtSO.
Oh and Happy Yorkshire Day everybody!
1 August 2019
The harbinger of nothing
As great as Shite Day is… It is a rare example of an HMHB song that I have heard a few times too many. If I was choosing my ideal setlist, it’s one I’d drop in favour of a rarity. And I’m disappointed for Dukla Prague.
By way of contrast, I’ve listened to JDOG way more times than Shite Day, but have never tired of it. Still reeling!
Some disappointing results for me in this round, but the good news is there are still eight HMHB songs left in. On to the “8 out of 205 cats” round!
1 August 2019
Welsh goth
, but the good news is there are still eight HMHB songs left in. On to the “8 out of 205 cats” round! (Courtesy of HON)
Yes I was worried Hall, Stairs and Landing may have broken the monopoly
1 August 2019
The harbinger of nothing
That wouldn’t be so bad. They’re really good.
1 August 2019
Clown in a yaris
I believe that any number of bands could write a song with meaning or at least sentiment such as Terminus. TTV could only have been written by the Biscuits and therefore i believe the right song won through. Terminus is still a damned good song though.
2 August 2019
EXXO
Nah. No other lyricist could have written either. Show me anything comparable to either by anyone else on either theme. You can’t.
But looking at daring to attempt these things as a attempting high dive with a ‘degree of difficulty’ factored into the scoring, it’s just undeniably easier for Mr. B to score more highly on quirky declarations of eccentricity (TTV) than on old age, bereavement, failing capacities and mortality.
It may be that TTV scores 10 starred from all judges with a degree of difficulty of 7 at most, but Terminus scores at least 9 with a degree of difficulty of 10 starred.
2 August 2019
Clown in a yaris
I agree that lyrically both songs could ONLY have been written by Mr B. Structurally i believe Terminus to be a much more straightforward song with a fairly flowing narrative on the subjects of old age,bereavement etc. I don’t believe TTV even has a theme as such, but more a collection of abstract imagery in a less straightforward and more interesting musical framework. Tis’ only opinion but thats why TTV got my vote.
2 August 2019
EXXO
Glad you realised the “any number of bands” statement could not be supported. I’ll not argue anyone on ‘favourite,’ which this particular popularity contest does specify, in age where most popular is usually worst, and I’ll try not to argue too much on matters of opinion, but that is a matter of basic fact. (edited with apologies – Exxo)
2 August 2019
EXXO
And there’s no “opinion” about TTV not having a theme. It states the theme at the beginning, it’s a list song, a list of personal quirks and accentricities stated early in a (soon-to-be-disastrous) relationship – absudly early, and to an absurd degree, a typical Blackwell ‘elevatio ad absurdum’.
2 August 2019
Clown in a yaris
Accentricities ?
2 August 2019
SQUID YES OCTOPUS NO
TTV is, I think, a love song, the lyrics concerned with the protagonist’s new companion: if you’re going to be with me, this what you’ll have to endure. It’s about the sense that falling in love brings the promise of becoming a new person, shedding old habits, but later in life one realises that those old habits die hard. And the line about egg sandwiches is brilliantly Proustian for some of us. AOR is also a love song, albeit a bitter one: he still loves her, but she’s at the top of the tree and he isn’t. And his impotent male rage can only be expressed with the tennis racket and a memory of 70s ITV. With AOR, it’s the rage in the vocal combined with the funky guitar, subterranean bass and funny but poignant lyric that makes it, IMHO, their best song.
4 August 2019
Neil
6 August 2019
EXXO
Well, at the same time as eating some humble pie (though I suspect it’s you that’s being naturally humble about your own song), I’ll have to re-issue the challenge then Neil. Name some songs about old age and mortality as good as Terminus.
6 August 2019
GOK WAN ACOLYTE
“Any number of bands could write a song with… sentiment such as Terminus” – maybe the sentiment, but I doubt very few if any other than HMHB could make it as blackly comic, heart-breakingly sad and with such amazing imagery in the lyric, coupled with a tune that manages to be both melancholic and defiant.
While I’m reluctant to disagree with a member of the band, whatever the result of the LFC it’s still number one of 205 as far as I’m concerned!
6 August 2019
Neil
6 August 2019
parsfan
Ta Neil
7 August 2019
dickhead in quicksand
@Exxo – “John Anderson my jo, John”.
27 July 2022
EXXO
Blimey Mike, in Cov or otherwise, how the hell are you? Been regulating much acid recently?
27 July 2022