The Lux Familiar Cup 2019: The Four Songs That Shook The Wirral Round – Draw and Voting

Match 1
Twenty Four Hour Garage People
National Shite Day

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Match 2
The Light at the End of the Tunnel
Every Time a Bell Rings

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✉ Letters Sent (41)

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(7 years ago by Pirx The Purist)

  1. Chris The Siteowner

    Continuing with our theme of getting real-life sport to make the draw, here’s the procedure for the Four Songs That Shook The Wirral Round:
    [1] The songs will be matched with 4 songbook-related football teams playing in the EFL Cup on Tuesday night (Accy Stanley, Luton Town, Millwall and Preston), in alphabetical order;
    [2] The performance of those teams (goal difference, then goals scored, then away goals count double) will give the linked songs a draw number from 1 (best performer) to 4;
    [3] The songs will be matched with 4 different songbook-related football teams playing in other competitions that night (1 gets Boreham Wood in the National League, 2 gets Brora in the Scottish Challenge Cup, 3 gets Copenhagen in the Champions League, and 4 gets Dundalk in the Europa League);
    [4] The performance of those teams (goal difference, then goals scored, then away goals count double) determine the draw: the best performer will play the third best, and the second best will play the worst performer.
    All on board?

    12 August 2019

  2. dr desperate

    You had me at Preston.

    12 August 2019

  3. FEATURELESS TV PRODUCER STEVE

    Does this qualify as “suitably contrived and unnecessarily complex”?

    Yes. Yes, it does.

    12 August 2019

  4. Steveee

    Had me at theme. Etabr.

    12 August 2019

  5. Two fat feet

    My head feels like sponge

    12 August 2019

  6. Chris The Siteowner

    Right, so we have our four semi-finalists, and step 1 is to match them up against the teams that will give them a draw number. So ‘ETBR’ gets Accy Stanley, ‘NSD’ gets Luton Town (who coincidentally are playing Ipswich Town Reserves), ‘TLATEOTT’ gets Millwall and ‘THGP’ gets Preston. More as the evening rambles on…

    13 August 2019

  7. EXXO

    At bookie’s odds, if anyone’s interested, there’s a fairly clear progression of:
    1.Luton (Shite) = Bottlywood
    2.Preston (24) = Brora
    3.Accy (Bell) = Copenhagen
    4 Millwall (Light) = Dundalk

    Then an even clearer likelihood that Copenhagen will be number one on the second cog of CtSo’s devilish Enigma machine, but Dundalk and Bottlywood quite close for 2 & 3, and Brora a clear likelihood of 4th.

    All that tells us, at the moment, is that the least likely probability is that the two favourites will play each other in one semi-final and the two outsiders in the other. Which, as far as the EFL cup round one is concerned, doesn’t mean a lot till the teams are announced.

    13 August 2019

  8. Mr galbraith

    Outstanding levels of complexity shown Chris, bravo.

    I can’t see past a repeat of last times Light vs Shite final personally

    13 August 2019

  9. paul f

    If it is a repeat you’ll need to be careful with the links.

    In my days living in Western Australia there were two consecutive AFL Grand Finals between the West Coast Eagles and the Sydney Swans. Channel 10 and Fox Sports used to alternate the rights to show the Grand Final, with Fox showing the first of these games. When the second came around Murdoch’s minions decided to show a replay of the first game opposite Channel 10’s live coverage. Several thousand people (mostly the kind who only watch one AFL game a year) ended up watching the previous year’s final thinking it was live. Different result as well.

    13 August 2019

  10. EXXO

    Copenhagen 1-0 down after 17 mins. Quite disappointing, really.

    (did I mention I once played/ for Red Star Belgrade/ or did I leave it unspoken?)

    13 August 2019

  11. BOBBY SVARC

    Red Star Bastards, Vienna 2000

    13 August 2019

  12. EXXO

    Good time to equalise for Copenhagen just before the break. Deserved.

    Luton and Preston both take early leads in the 7.45 kick-offs.

    13 August 2019

  13. EXXO

    At this rate, Luton, Preston and Hull (at Tranmere) could get the old cricket scores (except no-one ever actually does, do they?)

    13 August 2019

  14. EXXo

    [2] The performance of those teams (goal difference, then goals scored, then away goals count double) will give the linked songs a draw number from 1 (best performer) to 4;

    you might want to invent a tie-break on this before you need one

    13 August 2019

  15. EXXO

    Copenhagen finish 1-1. Extra time and penalties presumably won’t count.

    13 August 2019

  16. EXXO

    Preston’s away goals look like putting them number one, and Boreham Wood also currently number one …as things stand, with most games about 25 mins left, some 40, it’s a Light- Shite semi final.

    13 August 2019

  17. Chris The Siteowner

    Nearly! In stage 2…
    ‘THGP’ (Preston, +4) is given Boreham Wood
    ‘NSD’ (Luton Town, +2) is given Brora
    ‘TLATEOTT’ (Millwall, +1) is given Copenhagen
    ‘ETBR’ (Accy Stanley, –2) is given Dundalk

    In stage 3…
    ‘THGP’ (Boreham Wood, +3) gets position 1 in the draw
    ‘TLATEOTT’ (Copenhagen, 0) gets position 2 in the draw
    ‘NSD’ (Brora, –1) gets position 3 in the draw
    ‘ETBR’ (Dundalk, –2) gets position 4 in the draw

    And as stage 4 is position 1 plays position 3, and position 2 plays position 4, we have a completed draw of THGP v NSD and TLATEOTT v ETBR. It took me two attempts and went to VAR, but I think we’re there!

    13 August 2019

  18. John anderson

    @Exxo Luton (Shite). LOL.

    13 August 2019

  19. TWO fat feet

    NSD 60%, Light 53%

    14 August 2019

  20. choose light

    Choose an end
    Choose a tunnel
    Choose a train

    14 August 2019

  21. EXXO

    @ John Anderson – glad that pleased you – as it will have doubtless doubly delighted the fan in the van with split Watford & Keith loyalties to see “Watford (Shite)” then “Brora (Shite)”.

    Mrs. Exford, whose blood runs tangiest tangerine, would have preferred “Preston (Shite).”

    14 August 2019

  22. EXXO

    Oops. Sorry, Hornets!

    14 August 2019

  23. Cream cheese and chives

    NSD never seemed more relevant. I have just been infomed it is National Prosecco Day. A song for the times.

    14 August 2019

  24. EXXO

    Vivid memories of a day thirty years ago when I’d just arrived in Italy to teach, and I was told yeah, it’s national prosecco day, just go up into the hills – it’s only about 10 or 12 km …get off the bus at the village of Prosecco and it’s the day when all the prosecco vineyards will be giving out free prosecco & lovely prosciutto crudo … turned out my informant had got it wrong and the prosecco day was actually over 100km away in the villages around where the posher ‘DOCC’ prosecco now comes from (kind of a bit like the best Stilton no longer being made in Stilton, sort of thing). Nice views though.

    14 August 2019

  25. transit full of keith

    Only cheese made to a strict process in Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire or Derbyshire can be marketed as (Designated Origin) Stilton, so you can no longer make Stilton in Stilton at all, since it is just inside Cambridgeshire. The village’s loss is the pub quiz setter’s gain. It was probably invented in Melton Mowbray anyway.

    14 August 2019

  26. transit full of keith

    Apologies for that off-topic post, but my brain clouded over trying to understand how the draw had taken place. Cheese trivia is much more my thing. To drag things back on topic: is anyone going to predict anything but Lux 2015 history repeating itself from here? Same final, same winner?

    14 August 2019

  27. EXXO

    Dunno Keith, tie two could surely go either way. Tw*tter enagagees, if engaged deeply enough to stay slightly engaged beyond the first tie (average attrition rate 7-8%), my think that ETABR’s four hearty ‘fuckings’ are worth a quick click. Though I suppose it’s somewhat more likely they will have never actually heard the song yet, and will thus vote for TLATEOTT, ‘cos at least they remember the chorus of that one. Or at least they’ve heard it as a metaphor somewhere. Hmm, I wonder if Tw*tter provide any useful tools to enable us to know when our engagees are most deeply engaged with our content?

    14 August 2019

  28. John Anderson

    @Exxo. We were certainly shite on Saturday.

    14 August 2019

  29. Chris The Siteowner

    Referring to your Freedom Of Information request, Exxo, I put the 8 out of 205 matches live in pairs on Monday 5 and Tuesday 6 August. There’s a steady visitor traffic to the site of about 300–400 people a day, although we’re getting a bit more at the moment and we had 450–500 on 5, 6 and 7 August, about half from Google (as usual) and a further third from unidentifiable sources but probably browser bookmarks/favourites.

    On Thursday 8 I tweeted about the competition to 2500 followers, which (with 9 retweets) resulted in the tweet being seen 1,500 times and getting 130 clicks over the next few days from 100 people.

    Also on Thursday 8 I emailed about 1500 people on our mailing list, which I didn’t tag to get accurate clickthrough numbers, but it looks like about 150–200 people clicked through over the next 2 days.

    Finally on Saturday 10 I posted on Facebook’s “The Half Man Half Biscuit(HMHB) Appreciation society” (4500 members), and about 150 people clicked through over the next 2–3 days.

    Overall, about 1200 people visited the voting page, and 900–1000 voted. About a third of visitors were generated by the three promotions above. However, there was quite a spike from an unknown source(s) on Thursday 8 (I didn’t get the location because putting the site on SSL is still on the to-do list). This had a peculiarly high number of what Google Analytics calls ‘new users’, which is why I was a little suspicious of where they came from or who they were. But we’ll probably never know.

    14 August 2019

  30. EXXO

    Interesting stuff, really appreciate that Chris. And if you tweeted & emailed at more or less the same time on Thursday, the total number of votes on polltab increased from what to what in the following few hours?

    (Don’t know, sorry; I wasn’t keeping a record. Probably should have been – CtSO)

    14 August 2019

  31. Cream cheese and chives

    Just cast my votes and feel really quite drained. The final beckons and I look forward to when we meet the wives but will have my dinner during It’s a Knockout . My favourite songs aren’t going to be in the final but I will try to sit back and enjoy the game as a neutral. I look forward to the montage of ‘funnies’ from the previous rounds together with the pictures of the small boys (like me) crying when Terminus was knocked out and I really hope there will be half and half scarves available on the day.
    My first LFC, a huge vote of thanks to CtSO for all this. I am so glad I am the bastard son of Ned Ludd. What I could do with data like this if I weren’t limited to an exercise book and three different coloured ballpoints!
    Now where did I put those sugarlumps? I might need them if we get stuck in the Devil’s Arse.

    14 August 2019

  32. Sera69

    Literally nothing in the way of sunshine standing in the way of Shite Day. I still don’t get the love for this one. Time to roll out the VPN cannons!

    15 August 2019

  33. dr desperate

    Literally nothing, except perhaps…tactical voting by SWLABR, sorry, ETABR fans?

    16 August 2019

  34. dickhead in quicksand

    May I tentatively suggest the Nature’s Final Word Final? Perhaps you could cajole the magazine Nature into stumping up some sponsorship money, they should welcome the publicity.

    (Nice. Any other suggestions anyone? – CtSO)

    18 August 2019

  35. Steven Amphlett

    During its perfmance at The Devil’s Arse, I realised that I really do like NSD after all. I think I got bored of it when Ken played guitar – he looked bored playing it. But now…

    Similarly, I came out of The Arse thinking that TLATEOTT is their best live song. On that day anyway.

    So there’s my votes and my reasons for voting.

    18 August 2019

  36. Two fat feet

    Something something sugar lumps something for the Final

    19 August 2019

  37. LUX INFERIOR

    I did previously make a tentative suggestion for the LFC ‘19 denouement (or terminus, if you will): The ‘I Can’t Believe It’s Not Focus’ match. After all, it is the final act.

    19 August 2019

  38. BOBBY SVARC

    “I can’t believe it’s not Football Focus”

    19 August 2019

  39. Gipton Teenager

    How about “The Last Thing She Saw In Her Life Was…” round?
    Then fans could fill in their own endings.

    20 August 2019

  40. The harbinger of nothing

    The Victory V Ice Cream round?

    The Fuckin’ ‘Ell It’s… round?

    The Fridge Full of Nonsense round? (I’m not sure that makes sense but it’s a good phrase, and I suppose it could be a strange ironic metaphor for all the lyrics in the songbook)

    20 August 2019

  41. Pirx the purist

    The Terminus Round (to make up for the travesty of its early KO)? The Two Chevrons Round (as the tracks would have been kept apart until now)?

    20 August 2019

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